Finding Joy through trust with Christine Dainard
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[00:00:00] Laura Lorentz: Welcome to the Empowered Essence podcast, where we liberate you and empower you to let your soul lead the way in life and business. I'm your host, Laura Lawrence, sharing my thoughts and intimate conversations with featured guests on spirituality, business, and making courageous moves in the spirit of following your soul.
[00:00:23] I want to provide you with the tools you need to tap into your highest self. I am here to empower you to walk away, feeling ready to live your most expansive and purposeful life. Let's dive in.
[00:00:41] Hello and welcome back to another episode of Empowered Essence. I am so excited for this guest today. I have with me Christine Dainard and she is literally a ball of energy, a ball of light. I love being in her energy, in her presence. She really brings the joy and this podcast is actually special because it's not only going to be airing on the Empowered Essence podcast, but it's also going to be on her podcast, Say It Out Loud.
[00:01:10] So without further ado, I'd love to introduce Christine. Welcome to the show.
[00:01:16] Christine Dainard: Oh, thank you so much, Laura. It's so great to be here and chat with you and I just love what you're doing. And I really saw a synergy in us coming together to, to chat together. I'm so glad and happy to be here.
[00:01:27] Laura Lorentz: Yeah, that's awesome. I'm actually going to read for the audience your bio because I think it's important to share with them who you are and what you're really all about. So I'm going to read it now. So Christine Dainard is an empowering female leader, an advocate for authenticity who provides one to one and group coaching to help women tap into their joy and open themselves up to a life they love. You will also find Christine on stages inspiring others to live a life of joy by choice as the host of the Say it Out Loud Podcast and leading the joy project an online community curated to support women on their journey to becoming their best self.
[00:02:09] I think that is so aligned to everything that you're all about. And also for everyone listening, she is a manifesting generator. So I can feel it when you're feeling the joy.
[00:02:21] Christine Dainard: A hundred percent. And I'm also a three five and I'm a sacral. I don't exactly know what all those things mean. I'm still working on that, but it's really cool to actually dig into that human design part too, to know a little bit more about yourself and,life's a journey and getting to know yourself and leaning in and listening to what you're feeling and where you're meant to go is so important and something I think that so many of us, we either I don't know if we just miss it sometimes or we want to ignore it or, stuff it down in a big black hole because we're afraid of it or, think it's not for us, but it's such an honor to have done all the things I've done in my life to come to a point where each of them is like a mirror into what I'm doing now and helps me help others in a way that I never really saw myself doing, but saw myself doing.
[00:03:09] Oh, totally. I think, I talk a lot about intuition on my podcast. You are really all about bringing the joy into people's lives.
[00:03:16] And I think those two things go so hand in hand. If you're not listening to your intuition, there is no way that you're going to build. You need to tap into yourself. What it is that you desire, how your intuition is communicating to you. All those things so that you can build, really build and create a life that is for you, that inevitably brings in that joy.
[00:03:40] A hundred percent. Agree. A hundred percent.
[00:03:43] Laura Lorentz: So share with everyone. So you've been on quite the journey these last few years. You were the owner and operator of a company called the Buzz Bus,and doing tours of different wineries and breweries and the pandemic hit. Then you had this intuitive nudge to transition into coaching just, in the last year or so.
[00:04:06] So there's been a lot that's transpired. So I'd love for you to share with the audience a little bit about your journey and how your intuition really led into a lot of this.
[00:04:16] Actually, it's funny. You call it the buzz bus, and I kind of like that better because it was called the Buzz Tour Company.
[00:04:20] Oh, it's okay. But I actually am like, Oh, the buzz bus. That was, that's really fun. I should have named it that, but either way it was, the intention behind that business in itself was joy. I left my corporate job to start this business where I could take people on these adventures and day trips to explore an area they hadn't heard of before.
[00:04:40] I just felt this draw to do that and I couldn't explain it. Everyone around me thought I was nuts, which, by the way, I've gotten used to people thinking that the things I want to do are nuts. From the outside, I'm sure doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but it internally into me makes a whole lot of sense.
[00:04:56] When I started that business, it was so fun. I so enjoyed taking people for day [00:05:00] trips and of course, as you mentioned, as the pandemic sort of unravelled. I found ways during that time to survive in it, because couldn't really do tours. Certainly not as often and we were limited to when we could actually get out there with people.
[00:05:14] I found that really deflating for my spirit because I'm a very,as you mentioned, like I'm a very joyful, connected person. I like to be with people and share my energy with people.As a result of likely being a manifesting generator, that energy transfer for me is so important and as much as it can come through in a version of it, virtually, it's not the same as being in person. So I felt really deflated in it. And the last year I was in the business, it's so funny, actually, now that I think about it, because, we're talking about intuition and what led us to the next step, because I always talk about how can you just get to your next best step. You don't need to know the full picture. You just need to know what's next for you. So I remember going into the last year of my business in 2022. I literally was like, okay, this is either I'm going to quit or I'm going to go, all in and get a big business loan and get a new vehicle and just give her and cross my fingers this is going to work. What's really funny is that all along the time that I was applying for the loan and the vehicle, like there were so many hurdles in the way, I can laugh about it now, but at the time it was not funny. I took it all so seriously and I was so entrenched in it and just determined to do this thing that I thought was my purpose I thought this is what I was supposed to be doing.
[00:06:30] To cut it short, about six months in, I realized, it literally hit me like a brick wall. I was miserable in what I was doing. All of the rules because of the pandemic had changed, not only the experience, but they changed me in it. Nothing like trying to take people on a fun excursion and get to know people and get connected wearing masks and having plexiglass between you.
[00:06:51] I did all these things to try to connect us. I put microphones in so we could talk to each other and actually build in that connection, but it just wasn't the same.It was about six months in and I was just in dire straits and I knew something was really bad when I would come home from a tour and I would just be fallen out on the couch eating or drinking, whatever I could find and just found myself in this really dead space in my life. that's what I would call it. Interestingly enough, I was talking to somebody yesterday for my podcast, and we were talking about how in this transition you almost die while being alive a little before you break through and you come out alive on the other side again.
[00:07:32] Like in this new skin sort of thing. So it was about that time that I knew something had to change. I just didn't know what it was. Let's be honest, those three years in the pandemic, that was like, it was depressing. It was really hard, especially for someone like me, who's, who really loves to connect.
[00:07:48] I felt really detached from everything and every one of my energy was really affected. So I didn't see it coming, but I fell into, I'm sure it was a depression and I was so out of alignment with my purpose and what I meant to do and how I bring energy that what I was doing then with all these rules and all these things that prevented me from doing things the way I really wanted to do them.
[00:08:12] It wasn't aligned and I couldn't figure that out. So instead I went into a place of fear because I was like, if I don't do this, what the heck am I going to do? I wasn't in a place where I was really tuning in to myself. I was just taking action thinking, if I just try more things, then I can make it happen.
[00:08:27] Needless to say, a few friends of mine, they really encouraged me to go with them to Costa Rica for an escape from life for a week. At first I said, no, I can't do it. I can't leave my responsibilities.
[00:08:39] I was so busy busying myself. That I was so stressed and my body hurt, like everything was just like everything in my body said, no, you're not going to go. Then within a couple of days, my heart was like, Christine, you need this. You think you can't afford it, but go anyway. So I did. Literally within 24 hours, like magic happened.
[00:08:59] I won't get into the whole story, but essentially everything fell apart when I left on vacation for a week. Everything I had done to set up for that week of holiday. Everything didn't work out the way that it was supposed to work out and it was like I took it like this message in my body.
[00:09:16] It felt like this is a message to me saying you have been working so hard to keep this thing floating and you can't even get away on a week vacation without it reminding you. That it's not working. So within 24 hours of being away, my whole body relaxed. I got my first period in two years.
[00:09:36] I just knew I had this knowing that this wasn't it anymore. I didn't really know what was next, but that I just needed to get out. I just needed to let it go and be okay with not knowing what was next. I just couldn't continue to push against this resistance that I was feeling the entire year.[00:10:00]
[00:10:00] It just couldn't do it anymore. So I did. I came home. I figured out a way to, share that news with my audience. Cause you have to figure out how to share that stuff. It's not just like dropping a bomb. it took me a couple of months to really come to terms with that and figure out how to share that.
[00:10:16] Then I did and what was really neat that I don't think I didn't realize going into the closure was that my intention in that business was to connect people, bring them joy, bring people together, show them something they hadn't seen before, tap into their creativity or their curiosity and make them feel good and seen because that's what I do.
[00:10:39] When I closed the business, I got so many messages and emails from people, like hundreds of messages. People who hadn't even been on the tour, people who had just heard about it, people had been following me for that length of time saying I've never been on your tour, but I just got to tell you, your energy is amazing.
[00:10:56] I know whatever you do is what you're meant to do. I've just been following because you make me feel good, or you show me that there's something possible and I think you're amazing, whatever, like all these things and I was blown away, like all of that love, I was like, it was like taking punches, love punches.
[00:11:14] It was like really hard to take it all in. Cause it's I was so in the frame of mind of working so hard to keep something moving that I missed the whole reason I had done it in the first place. I missed this underlying part that said, Christine, just follow your gut and just connect with people.
[00:11:31] If this form of the work isn't working, then choose another form, because ultimately what happened was,it took me some time to figure it out, but the way that the buzz sort of happened, the buzz bus, which is what I should have named it. The way that sort of all transpiredI was emotionally done and spent at the corporate job I was working and I wanted out.
[00:11:54] I'd had this dream for a couple of years and then finally did it and it pushed me out. It got me out into this more creative space where I was able to lean into more who I was and, follow my gut, all those things. I realized through this process that as much as I felt I was attached to my business, and maybe you'll know something about this,I decided to do this and now I'm doing this thing and I need to stay committed to this thing because it's, I know that this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
[00:12:20] I listened to all of my intuition along the whole process, which made it work and now all of a sudden, everything in my body is saying, you just need to stop doing this. It was like, that's my baby though. that's a part of me. How do I just let that go? it's my business. My business is me.
[00:12:37] Then all of a sudden I realized that I am not the business, I am the energy that carries this concept into fruition into reality. Now that vehicle, for lack of a better term, has to change. I knew that there was a way that I could help impact people differently than I was in that, and I outgrown it and needed to be able to impact people in a bigger way.
[00:13:01] Oh my gosh.
[00:13:02] I just love listening to you. I love listening to your, your story in general, but how you've embodied the lessons that came out of this. The way that you articulate this is so freaking powerful when you were talking about that feeling of clenching on and holding on to it because it's like it was my baby.
[00:13:20] It was the thing. It was what got me out of, the past situation that I didn't want to be in. We all do this. We do this clenching thing where it was working, everything works up until a point when it doesn't. That's when we need to shift. That's when we need to move.
[00:13:36] if we all look at our life as like evolution and growth over a lifetime and know that there is nothing that's constant except change, we would release a lot of pressure. We would release, this control, of holding on to things. It's like when it's not meant to be in our lives, we get these nudges, and so you, you articulated, that body sensation really well about how you feel like this Tightness or you feel this.
[00:14:05] Oh, this isn't working or like I'm not feeling joyful anymore. Those feelings that you used to feel that now all of a sudden you don't feel that's a good sign that your intuition is guiding you in a different direction. You also articulated that you didn't know what the next step was. You were going along and you're like, I know this isn't working, but I don't know what the next step is.
[00:14:26] You got into that mental process of, I got to figure it out. I got to know I got to, but sometimes it just comes to thisbreaking point, like your trip to Costa Rica,to know that everything just fell apart. But then that feeling in your body of everything fell apart, but, you felt so free.
[00:14:42] Ugh, I just, that is pure magic. So many people, when we talk about, building a life full of joy, or building a life, based on our intuition, it's not easy. There's this misconception that like once you tap into your intuition life is great. It's no, like we're [00:15:00] still human, like we are still human and we want to hold on to things and we want to push through because that's, conditioning and all of that.
[00:15:08] Thank you for sharing that because that's a very real and tangible story. I experienced very similar with my human design business. The ego that comes up when it's this was my thing and I told all these people, this is what I'm doing and then now how do I communicate it to other people, they're not going to get it. They're not going to understand. It's this felt sense. How do I do that? So I love that you shared how the outpouring of people afterwards of how they came to you and just shared all of this love. Those were beautiful earth angels, just confirming for you the decision.
[00:15:44] Christine Dainard: Oh, it was so overwhelmingly powerful to show me that even though I have no idea what's coming next. That this was the right move for you, and I'm sure that you felt that too. The thing is too, once you've told people like you did with human design and you were offering this program and me with this,new year in the buzz and we're coming out from the pandemic and I'm doing all these different things.
[00:16:05] You've made promises to people, people are expecting you to do this thing and then you feel this real letdown, like you're going to really let people down, but what's really interesting, and I'm sure, in fact, I think I've even heard you talk about this is you'd be letting them down even more if you continued to do what you thought you had to do or should do, the key word there, should, I hate that word, should all over me.
[00:16:32] You wouldn't be able to offer them what you were before, because your heart and your, yourself, your alignment, none of it's coming together anymore. So it's almost in that last year, I felt like I was faking it a lot,because it wasn't there anymore. Did you feel that too?
[00:16:49] Laura Lorentz: Yeah, it's like a disservice to the people that you're offering to. I always come back to like at the end of the day, if I focus on me first, my energy, my alignment, I know that whatever I do is going to deliver high quality transformation for the people that I work with. So if I'm excited about it, if I'm aligned to it, I know that it's going to be great.
[00:17:13] If I'm not... That just isn't, that's not part of my vocabulary or standards about, offering something that I'm not a hundred percent behind.
[00:17:23] Christine Dainard: Yes. Yes, I absolutely align with that too.
[00:17:27] Laura Lorentz: Yeah. I totally feel that and resonate with everything that you've said, or, and those feelings,there was probably a lot of, questioning of this.
[00:17:36] I'm sure there were a lot of tears or, wondering, is this, what, why should I do this? what, were the emotions that were coming up behind the scenes?
[00:17:44] Christine Dainard: Oh yeah. Like lots of tears. I cried a lot. I always say, like I cried an entire ocean during that time because that's how it felt.
[00:17:52] It felt like I was constantly crying and, it's funny, cause I realized during, or came to terms with during the pandemic that tears or any emotion, they're just meant to come out of us. If we hold it in our body, it actually does more harm than good because we're holding this energy in our bodies.
[00:18:05] So I learned really quickly in the pandemic to just let it out, let the tears out. So I would literally be walking in the grocery store and I'd grab something and I'd be like, I would just start ugly crying in the middle of nowhere. I'm just going to let it flow. You look at me like I'm an idiot. I don't care.
[00:18:21] I'm just going to let it come out because it's meant to come out. So I did a lot of crying. I just kept, I don't know if you want to call it praying, or I realized now I was probably talking to my higher self when I was like, just show me the way, just show me what to do next, because I can't continue to stay in this state.
[00:18:38] I need to move from this. I need to get it out of my system and I need to move forward. So I remember asking for, some divine intervention. to put me in front of the right person who could help guide me into what that would be. You know how magical this is, It's so funny because I still sometimes hesitate telling people these parts of the story because I'm like, they're going to think I'm all woo.
[00:19:01] They're going to think I'm crazy because I listened to like, my heart and my gut,people get weird about this stuff. So I still have some resistance around sharing parts of this, all of a sudden in the next 24 hours, I saw this ad pop up on Facebook.
[00:19:13] It wasn't even an ad actually. It was somebody who I'd been following for some time, but just hadn't seen their content in a while, and she was offering this like six month intuitive leadership. course or program to work with her one on one. I was like, Oh my God, that's it. Everything that it said in the post, I was like, Oh my God, that's where I'm at.
[00:19:33] That's exactly what I need. I was like, thank you. Whatever that was, whatever intervention just happened, that's it. Like literally 24 hours. The magic of that stuff. It's not by accident. It's totally on purpose and it's all happening for you, and so I connected with her immediately. Within weeks we were working together and, she really helped me in ways I actually have a really hard time putting into words what we did during that time.
[00:19:59] [00:20:00] Not only did she helped me reconnect with my intuition, but helped me heal a lot of the things that were, aspects of my inner child. Parts that I hadn't ever really gotten over or didn't realize that they were triggering me in the today. The whole feeling like this was it, and I was married to this concept that I had to do because, if I changed my mind, I was not reliable, I was going to come across as a flake, I was, all these things that people had told me, and I believed.
[00:20:28] That if I didn't continue to keep doing the same thing, that I didn't meet this requirement somehow. I realized through that, that was all the beliefs of other people. Those weren't my beliefs. It really struck me and we did lots of work together and as I leaned more into that and really allowed this magical spiritual awakening to happen within me in the guidance of this incredible
[00:20:54] mentor. It woke me up and the next best thing I can do is share with people what's going on. The next best thing I can do is start talking about what's happening because I felt, and again, you'll know what I mean by this when my, because I feel a lot of my intuition comes through this body feeling.
[00:21:15] It's very strong for me. So everything in my body was okay. You didn't want to share with people that you were closing the business. You didn't want to share with them the pain of that. As soon as I started sharing the pain of that, people were coming out of the woodwork and saying, Oh my God, thank you for sharing.
[00:21:30] I feel the same way. I just didn't want to say it. All of that started happening. I get goosebumps when I think about it now, because my sharing my story helped impact. other people who also felt like they couldn't share their story because of fear of judgment, because of being condemned for changing their mind or thinking differently or whatever.
[00:21:53] This incredible ability to just share that story, help to touch people in a way that I never could have imagined.
[00:22:02] That next step for me was Christine, you need to have a podcast. You need to start saying the things out loud, and you need to help other people say them out loud so that people can get them out of their bodies, number one, because we all know that when we store that energy, it's huge, and it sits in your body.
[00:22:17] Not only that, but other people listening will be able to connect with those who are sharing their stories. If we're experiencing it. There's a really high chance that there are other people out there experiencing something just like you.The nuances might be slightly different, but a lot of it is going to be the same as other people and the more that we share, the more we can heal, and the more we can help others.
[00:22:42] Laura Lorentz: Yeah, you can't have authenticity without vulnerability, like that vulnerability piece is what brings us together. It's like this thread that weaves us all together. and when we share what's on our hearts and share, the challenges or the struggles or the things that we're going through, it's what brings us together because at the end of the day, like we are all one.
[00:23:06] We are all connected in some shape or form. and yeah, your vulnerability is felt people feel that when you can open upI love that you shared about doing like an intuitive development because that's what's bringing to the forefront, we're creating space.
[00:23:24] You healing the,the inner child piece, looking and questioning what you're thinking and why you're thinking those things that you're thinking you're creating space to invite things in. That's the piece there's a lot of modern day manifestation and whether you believe in manifestation or not, inviting new things into our lives, we only have so much energetic capacity. So to invite new things into our lives, we have to let something go. So whether it's thought forms, whether it's, energetic patterns, whether it's, healing something, clearing something, that's what's inviting in that next level.
[00:24:01] That next idea, that next project, whatever it is we got to clear something in order to be able to invite that in. It sounds like you did a really beautiful job of that.
[00:24:10] Yeah, it was intense, and it was so incredible. So painful, but Reviving at the same time, it rejuvenated my spirit.
[00:24:19] It helped me to see myself more clearly and at the same time allowed me, I've always seen people for who they are. I always see what's in them. I can always, I'm always able to pull their story out, help them feel comfortable doing so, that's just been a natural thing in my life. From the time I was a kid, people will tell me their life story in minutes.
[00:24:42] Going through that experience with her and then that intuitive space was oh my goodness, it just amplified that for me. This means so much in regard to how I need to move forward, how I can help other people tap the surface on this. Maybe I can't do what she could do with me because her gifts are [00:25:00] totally different than mine.
[00:25:01] I can get people started on the journey and I can help guide them along and show them some of those doors and windows that they can walk and slide through and help them uncover where they can open their awareness. I think awareness is the key to everything when we don't know what we're doing or why we're doing it
[00:25:20] and we're just on autopilot we can't make change happen. We are just doing what we always do. If we're not stopping for a minute and thinking, hold on a second, interesting. This is what I've done for a really long time now. Why am I doing it like this? Especially when something feels off or, one of my clients more recently said to me, she's I used to be this really happy, joyful person and I was the fun one.
[00:25:46] Then all of a sudden I got to this point where I'm this like bitter woman who's I don't want to be happy with you. I'm bitter over here and after going through several weeks, it's she's you opened my eyes, I wasn't aware of the things and where I was putting my energy and what I believed about myself, I wasn't even aware of it.
[00:26:04] Now that she's aware of it, it's opened up possibility. It's beautiful thing to watch people's eyes open up and sparkle again is so magical to me. it's the most incredible feeling to help women because I primarily work with women, but to help them through that and help them see themselves and help them realize their worthiness and realize that a lot of the things they believe in themselves. They belong to other people.
[00:26:28] Yeah, awareness is healing. just the fact that you're bringing to the surface that your conscious brain is recognizing a pattern that you've been stuck in for years and years. A thing that you've always done. A belief that you've always had. just bringing that to the surface alone is healing.
[00:26:48] So when, obviously I do, energy healing work, and I can sense and feel these things, but my job is just to bring these things to the surface for those people to see, and to recognize, and to heal. You're a healer too! you are helping people bring to the surface these underlying patterns that they're not aware of.
[00:27:08] Awareness is healing. People can complicate, what healing is. How do I heal? All you got to do is bring to awareness the things that are running unconsciously in your day to day life. That's really all it is. it's very simple.
[00:27:21] It is, but we make it really difficult.
[00:27:24] We get in our own way so easily.It's funny because even before I decided to become a coach, I was coming up with all these different names to call myself because I don't want to be a coach. I don't like the term and all these things because it's probably a manifesting generator thing to want to be unique and be my own thing and not fall into any status quo of anything out there.
[00:27:42] Other people may not be able to find me if I'm not called something similar that they're aware of. So I had to come to terms with that. I was why am I so concerned about what I'm calling myself at the end of the day, the people that want to work with me and want to make change happen will be drawn to me for all the right reasons.
[00:27:59] It doesn't even matter what I call myself.If I can call myself or refer to myself as something that they can be more familiar with, and it's easier for them to get on board with a concept or idea, then that's all that matters. Exactly.
[00:28:11] Exactly. So tell us about, your community that you've built, the Joy Project.
[00:28:16] Christine Dainard: Yeah. So it's really cool. I'm just going to take us back quickly to that moment of when we were talking about how I didn't really know what was next. It was let me start the podcast. Okay. This is what I'm feeling. I'm going to do this thing. So then I started the podcast and learned all the parts about starting a podcast, which I'm sure you know, all about, there's a lot to that. Then the next step for me was, Oh my gosh, I had this vision of having a community. I still have this vision of bringing people together in like big masses of people, women in a group where all they do is lift each other up and help each other and feel good and crying each other's presence and laughing each other's presence.
[00:28:51] I have this huge vision of what it can become. Of course you got to start somewhere right because it doesn't necessarily happen overnight but now I'm putting it out there for whoever didn't hear who's going to listen to this. But I knew that I wanted to people together. I know that as women, especially, we might talk a lot about things and with certain people, we share certain things or concepts or ideas, but how often are women really honest and vulnerable about how they're feeling?
[00:29:16] The world has taught us that being vulnerable is scary and you should be afraid of it because people are going to hurt you. that's basically what we learn. So I wanted to create a space that people could come into where it was like a big, warm hug. That not only did they have me there to lead the group through, different exercises or different conversations or discussions or different experiences, but they had a place to come where everything led by me was injected with their vulnerability.
[00:29:43] They're willing to come to the table. They're willing. They know there's something drawn inside of them that knows it's time for change. It's time to do things differently. To be around other women who just want to support each other. I think the biggest thing for me was that I've really struggled in my life to [00:30:00] have support of the people around me, whether it was family, whether it's friends.
[00:30:04] I don't know exactly why that is. I have a theory on why that is, but I think that when we grow outside of where people know us and love us, it's really hard for them to understand, where we've grown into and they don't know us there. So it's really hard to sit with us there or connect with us there because they're not familiar with that version of us.
[00:30:24] Whereas in this community, I wanted to provide a space that women could come together and be seen for who they are and build their confidence, get more comfortable being, in their skin and just being who they are and being supported by other women who want to see them flourish. and so it's small and it's slowly growing and it magic is already happening in there, because it's a safe space. It's where people can come together. Every week is a little different when we connectand so far it's going really well. I love it. It's become something this intuitive idea that comes through you is the only way I can describe it, that comes into fruition and you're almost like, is this real pinch myself? Is this really happening? This was like a dream and now it's actually real. How is that even possible?
[00:31:14] Laura Lorentz: Yeah, that's the power of our co creation with the universe. When we have these ideas and inspiration, I truly believe they're meant for us.
[00:31:22] They are God's gift, universe's gift, whatever, however you want to associate with it, but it's these little gifts. When we create space for these things, these ideas come through us, and then we manifest them. We make them into form, and we create them. And so I just... it's so exciting to, to hear everything that you are creating and the impact and the change that you're making in these women's lives. That is so powerful. and you sharing and declaring your big vision on this podcast, I have no doubt. I have no doubt in my mind that this is going to manifest for you because the more that we speak these things we speak them into form. Somebody, listens to this podcast and asks you to be a guest at their event.
[00:32:09] Then you get some experience behind the scenes at an event and then it transpires into something else. Then you run your own event. There's all these little like breadcrumbs that lead us to the big vision, but trusting and knowing that those big visions, like I too, I, since I was a kid, I've had visions of myself speaking on stages, doing Ted Talks, doing big presentations.
[00:32:30] I know this to be true. I know that this will be the day or there will be a day that this happens. It's following those little nudges all along the way. Cause I think a lot of people can get hung up on the big vision. It's I want this big thing, but it keeps them stuck because they're like, how do I get from here to there?
[00:32:48] The answer is you don't have to get from here to there. You just have to take those like little baby steps along the way and trust and know that it's going to happen.
[00:33:00] Christine Dainard: I think too, like we get trapped in expectation as well. So we create this vision, like in my experience in the buzz is exactly this.
[00:33:07] It's I created this vision of this idea of what I wanted to create and I created it. Then I was okay, so the, my expectation is that now this is going to grow and I'm going to get a bigger bus and I'm going to do all these things and then I did them, but then they didn't feel right. It was because I was so caught up in what the vision looked like when I designed it initially. I was so focused on what that expectation was that I had for myself that I kept going, even though everything underneath was slow down because yeah, you did this thing, but the end result isn't always what your brain can conjure up.I think that we often tap into what have we seen before what happens in this instance and what does growth look like there? Okay, that's what I want. Meanwhile, this intuitive road is so unknown. So I understand why a lot of people have a struggle in leaning in.People ask me questions all the time, but how Christine, but how are you doing that?
[00:34:00] What's your big, what's your five year plan? I hate that question. I'm like, I don't have a five year plan. Okay. I am rolling with the punches and what feels right. I'm doing, I'm slaying over here. I have no idea what the hell I'm doing in a year. I don't know. But what I know now, certainly through that experience in the buzz is I don't have any expectations and I'm not holding myself to anything because that's when magic can happen. That's when we can make bigger impacts than we even realize is possible because we get our heads out of the game,
[00:34:29] Laura Lorentz: I know people can get so stuck in this plan like it's okay you gotta have a plan and that I feel is like in my body personally feel so constricting and like my background, went to business school I've worked in corporate strategy , I have worked in a very ,left brain dominant, field for a long time.
[00:34:48] So breaking free from that, all the deconditioning around that, and moving into more of this intuitive space. When I say I don't have a plan, it feels so freeing. It feels so [00:35:00] good that I can trust myself enough that every little nudge, every little idea, I trust and know that it's leading to that bigger thing, plans, and some people do really well, for anyone who's listening, some people do like plans, some people do that structure, and so it's not saying that plans are a bad thing, but for some people, they're not, for some people, it doesn't feel good in their body, and it's always coming back to your body of, What feels good?
[00:35:30] am I resisting this because it's not right for me? Am I resisting this because, of some conditioning that I have? Whatever it is, always come back to your body and does this feel good for me?
[00:35:42] Christine Dainard: Yeah, yes.
[00:35:42] Laura Lorentz: Awesome. I love this conversation so much. Thank you so much for being a guest on the show today.
[00:35:50] I think the audience is going to take a lot from this conversation of what it really means to trust your intuition in business and making these big pivots and changes. So thank you for your vulnerability. Thank you for bringing your energy to this space. it is so appreciated.
[00:36:08] Christine Dainard: Absolutely. And you as well.
[00:36:09] And because this is a collaborative post, because I can see, of course, clearly, we're going to be saying goodbye in a minute, And I want you to be able to share the same thing. I want you to be able to say, Laura, this is what I do, this is how I can help you, and this is where you can find me.
[00:36:24] I think the magic that you're bringing into the world, and the gifts that you're bringing, like, all of these things complement each other,.I think, the one last thing I want to say is, There's not really a roadmap for leaning into your intuition or leading a life from your heart and gut because the road is very different for every one of us.
[00:36:40] The path can change at any given time, and it takes a lot of different mentors and moments. Throughout our lives to be able to find a way to weave through it right and to truly embody where we're going and how we're feeling. So it takes a bunch of different healers and people in our lives to do that.
[00:36:57] I've had so many different mentors along the way. I didn't start here. It didn't start in Costa Rica. This is personal development and leaning into my gut has been happening for a long time. So the reason I'm saying all that is I think that you're a really big piece of that for a lot of people, because again, you and I have very complimentary gifts to help each other, and to help others. Which is why this podcast works so beautifully too, right? Cause there's so much to tap into. So would you mind telling our listeners where to find you too? Of
[00:37:28] Laura Lorentz: course, so my Instagram is Laura Lawrence Coaching, so Lawrence is L O R E N T Z. And so what I do in my work, so I am an energy healer, and so I have my own signature modality called energy weaving.
[00:37:44] And so what energy weaving is a very sophisticated way. of energy clearing. I work with my guides and my allies to do these clearings. So it's not just me, I'm bringing in support for these healings, but through my hands and through movement and working with these guides, I can lift thought forms, programs, beliefs, past life, ancestral healings, really diving deep into the healing.
[00:38:13] In addition to healing, I also do activation work. So I see these points of light on everybody's energetic body, and I call them constellations. Some people call them light codes, but they're basically like these different activation points. So we have some constellations that are fully lit up when we come into this incarnation, but then others lay dormant.
[00:38:38] For specific events to happen in our lives or specific healings. So we can activate things, whether it's our connection with our higher self, whether it's courage, whether it's trust, whatever it is, we can activate these qualities within us. So I work with clients either on a single session or in, I would say the longer containers, the six or 12 months is really where the magic happens because I can clear all of this stuff in a few sessions, but the activation work is like where the magic happens.
[00:39:10] This is where, to your point, is we can get into, okay, let's clear what needs to be cleared and start moving on and start. Really going forward in this life that we desire this life full of joy and fulfillment. Everyone is so different. I am a psychic channel. I get these messages and in all of these sessions and with doing this work, what is very clear is I really support people with their path and their purpose in life and really unlocking these like natural gifts within them.
[00:39:42] I'm also a projector in human design. So I just see people really well. I can see their blocks. I can see where they're holding themselves back. But then I also see their potential. I see where they're going. I see where they're headed. I navigate, I guide people on the right path or the right [00:40:00] direction in order to get to where they're going.
[00:40:01] So I do these healings. I do this in these longer containers, and then also provide the coaching support. to help them along the way, and, it's just been a beautiful journey because this is something that this is a modality, so I closed down my human design business last fall, and I had a couple of months where I had no idea what I was going to do next.
[00:40:22] I had this intuitive knowing that there is something coming and I went into a very reflective state. I did a lot of meditation. I did a lot of like self sourcing and self discovery. One day when I was meditating in December of last year, all of a sudden my hands started moving and my guides were telling me you're reweaving your energetic field and I had no idea what that meant and so I started doing it on myself.
[00:40:49] I started doing it on other people. I found a mentor as well throughout this process as well that does something similar,and working with her and really trusting these this guidance that was coming through to me. So I have a lot of light language that comes in during these sessions, so much comes through, but it was all based on me trusting myself and trusting these messages that came through.
[00:41:12] Christine Dainard: Oh, I love that. It's funny because I'm sure that of some people that are listening, I think wherever people are on their journey of self, a lot of this, and I already indicated this, I hesitate sometimes to talk about my spiritual side because I know that not everybody connects with that,.
[00:41:29] It's a hurdle that I'm working through right now, but, there's all these different ways that we can connect, right? I believe that when we open our hearts and our minds to new and different things. That really incredible things happen and the world is not built around this because you can't put a finger on it.
[00:41:49] You can't put a deadline on it. You can't put it in a box. So when you can't put it in a box, people are afraid of what's outside. What is unknown, right? What's out here, but there's so much magic to be found for the work that you can do with people and how you help people. I think that's so beautiful.
[00:42:06] So thank you for sharing that here as well. Appreciate that.
[00:42:09] Laura Lorentz: Yeah, thank you. I think,just for the listeners, for your podcast, too, I come from a very corporate background, very business, the thought, I remember six years ago, I took a course on meditation and the chakras, and everyone was going around the room describing their connection to their higher self, and I was like, what are these hippies smoking?
[00:42:30] I literally was like, what are they talking about? The reason why I was so triggered or not understanding was because I was so disconnected and it was the exact thing that I needed to connect with to bring that joy to bring that fulfillment because I was so disconnected.
[00:42:46] I was burnt out. I was, doing the things that, everyone says go to university, get the good job. I had it all. I had it all. I was still unhappy. the biggest thing is your body is always communicating with you and when you're unhappy, then there's something that needs to shift.
[00:43:04] For me, it was that, that deeper connection, that deeper understanding that I do have a higher purpose in this lifetime, and I just need to connect in with that.
[00:43:14] Oh, I love that. Thank you for walking us through that too. That's a good little piece, a little nugget for people that haven't been introduced to you before too, to know, because I know that they're going to go from this podcast.
[00:43:24] They're going to go right over to yours when they listen to mine. That's confusing, but Yeah. Yeah, Toweave through and introduce ourselves to different people. I just think it's so beautiful and cool how you've followed everything inside of you and that's in there for you to do and it's not over.
[00:43:39] You'll keep weaving through it and finding your way. Exactly.
[00:43:43] So how can everyone on my podcast, how can they reach out with note to you?
[00:43:47] So you can follow me on Instagram. I am on Facebook as well at, itsmechristined.ca you can also find me at my website, which is, itsmechristined.ca where everything that I do is in one.
[00:44:00] So essentially I do group and one on one coaching for women to help them tap into joy in their lives and realize the things that they're doing unconsciously or on autopilot that are preventing them from having joy. Then of course, there's opportunity to join the community and be a part of something where you can connect with other women and grow at your own pace and be supported through that.
[00:44:21] There's also the podcast, there's all kinds of things there, those would be the best places to find me and to keep learning more.
[00:44:27] Awesome. thank you so much, Christine. It's always a pleasure to chat with you and we'll talk soon.
[00:44:33] Christine Dainard: Yeah, you as well. Thank you so much.
[00:44:35] Laura Lorentz: Thank you for tuning in to today's episode of Empowered Essence. If you loved this episode, don't forget to leave a rating and review on your favorite platform. And until next time, keep shining your light.
